Discipline?
Pastor Jim Kilby • October 14, 2025
I'll readily admit that being in the U.S. Military for more than 20 years might have given me more of an appreciation for discipline, but the truth is that discipline is not learned in the military. It is learned as a young child, and it is carried into life. Many parents today have given in to athe well-intentioned but absolutely wrong idea that teaching a child through "discipline" (meaning to teach, or to disciple) is somehow wrong. I even received angry mail this week when I suggested in one of my devotionals that I might (although I never have) send one of my children to bed without dinner to teach them something. Maybe I should put it this way. Either a parent teaches a child a healthy respect for rules and laws or society will. What's worse, either they have a respect for God (and His desires) in this life, or they'll pay an even worse price. Frankly, I'd rather my children learned it from me. After all, God clearly placed that mantle of responsibility on the shoulders of parents. So, if your parents discipline you (in love and in truth), then you can thank God for them. They love you!
"Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die. Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death." Proverbs 23:13-14
Pastor Jim Kilby
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